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Marquee Madness – how a concert venue can hold a full house yet still lose

November 14, 2007 · 2 Comments

The live concert ’scene’ in Phoenix is a strange affair. We have a host of smaller intimate venues, and pubs masquerading as live clubs. At the other end of the spectrum there are a good number of large arenas for the rare dates when a U2 or a Britney comes to town. What Phoenix lacks is the clubs which can accommodate 700-1200 people and be centrally located in the valley.

There is only one contender ‘The Marquee Theater’ in Tempe on N Mill avenue at Washington. The Marquee is now 14 years old but has only served as a rock venue  for about 5 years, it formerly operated as the ‘Red River Music Hall’ catering almost exclusively to Jazz and Country music.

So here is the perplexing issue: you have a venue with such a large number of attributes how could it all go wrong?

  • Exclusivity – with a capacity of 1,050 it is the only game in town for audiences of 700-1500
  • Location – Only 1/2 mile from downtown Tempe and 8 miles East of downtown Phoenix, the venue sits on the corner of where Phoenix/Tempe/Scottsdale meet on the map
  • Access – Excellent freeway access, very close to the 202/101/51/10 – just yards away from light rail when it opens next year
  • Space – Ample parking throughout the surrounding area

So faced with all these positives – how could the owners get it all so wrong? Let me count the ways….

1. Identity: I agree that Phoenix is a hard town to gauge, I’ve been to shows expecting a sell out to find less than 20% of tickets sold and also events which are not on the radar that are packed. For a large city concert attendance is spotty and seemingly can be effected by weather, the Phoenix Suns, the latest episode of “The Biggest Loser” – you name it. But, that’s no excuse – The Marquee doesn’t (even after 5 years) have an identity of any sort. I never hear anyone excited when an act announces they are playing there, coupled with the chameleon status of the venues promoters. Heavy Metal, Indie, Alternative, Funk, Emo, you name it, Nothing wrong with diversity – but I see it as chaotic booking strategies. The venue seems content to try and appeal to everyone and offend them all simultaneously.

2. Staff: I’ve seen concerts at venues and cities around the world – never before have I seen a venue as overstaffed as this one. On nights where the audience barely reaches 200 it’s easy to hand count 40-50 employees just milling around trying to look busy. To add to the illusion they also select staff who seem to have zero interest in music or customer service. The security lines make the airport seem efficient and the ‘bar’ makes you wonder if they are just trying to keep the streets safe for others. Slow disinterested service is the order of the day

3.  Apathy – In five years not one discernible positive change has been made to the venue.  Access, lighting, sound, cleanliness, marketing, staffing all remain as they were. I would estimate I’ve been to about 30-35 concerts at the venue over that span and the feeling that the venue just ‘doesn’t care’ could not be more pronounced. I’m not looking for Wi-Fi access in the lobby or the best bottles of Belgian Ale in the bar – just a feeling that the club will occasionally get out a paintbrush, or better enable the audiences access to the ticket booth, security checks etc.

4. Greed – I am fully conversant with the fact that tickets to shows have risen by 40-100% since the decade began. This being due to higher travel costs, downloaded music and general inflation. I’ve no issue with that – I will always support live music. The venue – which should be feel like ‘our’ venue further alienate their customers by seemingly squeezing every last dollar out of the wallets of it’s clientele. Parking – there must be 1200 spaces within 300 yards of the venue that are not in use. When the Marquee opened it cost nothing to park – now it costs $5 – the only other thing in the lots are empty beer bottles and Jack Rabbits. Ticket fees – again, when the venue opened fees would make up a 7-15% surcharge – now its 20-30%. Here comes the masterstroke: I saw Art Brut at the Marquee last Friday night – at the T-Shirt stand the band had written a sign that said the following “Art Brut regret we are not selling any T-Shirts or other concert merchandise due to the 28% (!!!) addition being collected by the venue on every item, Art Brut do not want to abuse our audience in this fashion.” 28% ? for what ?? Writing the songs? Organizing the tour? Conceiving the artwork? No…for allowing a dirty table in the lobby to be used to sell these items. I was offended but won’t punish the band as the same items are available online for more normal rates.

As for the future of the Marquee….I want it to succeed….I like the size of it, I like the location of it and I sincerely feel Phoenix needs it. Based on the evidence of ever dwindling audiences, terrible promotion/booking and advertising coupled with the desire to rip off the paying customers I see tough days ahead. I hope I’m wrong, I hope the public can show more than the same apathy that the venue displays, I hope live music in Phoenix can have a medium sized venue it can be proud of. I don’t need the Hammersmith Palais, just a place to see a band.

Cheers

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The sad state of Music Journalism in Phoenix

August 24, 2007 · 1 Comment

I had to write the letter below to the music editor of the Phoenix New Times today. It was to comment on an article about ‘college suicide music’ and focused on The Cure and Joy Division. This metropolitan area is the 6th largest in the country and yet our sole resource for music journalism could just as well have been written by my cat (perhaps better). Please find the article, it’s horrible.

If you could also write to niki.dandrea@newtimes.com and beg for some real journalists in this town, the younger generation will thank you evermore.

The letter:

I hate to nit-pick, but I can’t help myself. Just where did you find ‘Scott Gunaca’ and did anyone proof his article ‘Sympathy for the College Devil’?Before I begin I’m not even much of a fan of the Cure (Joy Division more so) but where oh where did he invent this “Holy Trinity of Suicide Bands”? Apart from this being a crass misrepresentation of Joy Division (perhaps if he understood the actuality of living in Manchester in the late 70’s he would see the music as simply an embodiment of a town literally going nowhere fast). Sad, perhaps, but suicidal? The actual fact of Ian Curtis’ demise is not written all over the music – perhaps some understanding of his fear of success and ongoing battle with epilipsy would translate to the downfall more.Moreover the main reason for writing was the inaccurate portrayal of The Cure. The summit of anguish for this band was not even mentioned. Robert Smith himself is quick to acknowledge “The Top” as the most troubled Cure album. Yet your writer cites “Pornography, Disintegration and Wildflowers” as it’s “Trio of early eighties recordings” (which fit his ’suicide’ bill). The crux of the matter is the factual inaccuracy of this1. These albums were chronological but completely missed the bulk of their ouput (and most celebrated) he mentions these as ‘early 80’s when the release dates were 1982 (Pornography) 1989 (Disintergration) 2000 (Blood flowers). Not sure how he surmises this as from the period mentioned??

2. Indeed, he totally (oddly) omits, Faith (81) The Top (84) The Head on the Door (85) Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me (87)

It seems you feel that your readers have no grasp of musical history. If you continue publishing articles as insipid and plainly inaccurate as this, your readership are not going to learn a great deal are they?

I trust Scott paid you to publish this article and not vice-versa? The New Times could and should be the best source for music journalism in Phoenix, instead it just..exists.

Please find some real music writers…the city needs you.

Tim

**addendum – Respect to Niki D’andrea (New Times music editor)

who wrote an educated reply to my letter just after I clicked send. The article was a syndicated piece that she did not edit or proof – so we agreed to trek down the author. I was thrilled to learn that Niki (incidentally) knows her stuff . So let me apologise to her – but now must hunt out this ‘Scott ‘ chap.

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